Impassive

I wrote this in a comment at Waking Up On Planet X:

More than any economic consideration, it’s making me sick to read the libs and dippers legitimize the Bloc so eagerly… no, no it’s worse than that. It’s cool, it’s smart, it’s tidy. Layton wrapped it up in a bowtied box for them, and they open it without a flicker in their eye. It’s almost impassive.

The NDP and Liberals have made a deal for a coalition government and there is a separatist signature on the paper. There is a little sidebar box at this blog.  The box is titled “Canadians For A Progressive Coalition”. There are three links in it:

Getting involved [BQ]
Getting involved [LPC]
Getting involved [NDP]

There is no catch and no question to their reaction. No twist in the gut to see LPC beside NDP beside BQ. Says Idealistic Pragmatist:

The Bloc isn’t a protest vote, it’s a province-centric vote. It’s why they get so many votes from non-sovereigntists who are nonetheless Quebec-centred–they’re perceived as being the only ones who are really going to fight for Quebec interests. So having an agreement with the Bloc that you’ll help them get goodies for Quebec in exchange for them supporting your government will be a thorn in the side of the new government (if it happens), but that’s nothing at all new. The Bloc will always be a thorn in the side of any minority government, so unless we’re going to bring in proportional representation before the next election (thus cutting their power down to what they’ve earned instead of the inflated seat count they get with First Past the Post), we’d better all learn how to work with them.

Jack Layton:

And I’ll just say one other thing about the issue of the Bloc: nothing could be better for our country, than to have the fifty members who’ve been elected to separate Quebec to actually helping to make Canada a better place.

I am going to search for someone with a second thought…

How about Skinny Dipper?

Conservatives who are against a potential Liberal-NDP-Bloc coalition should not complain about “Separatists” getting into power. When they attack the separatists, they are attacking Quebeckers.

Oh wow.

Saskboy – pretty mainstream. (in a post called My Heart Could Burst)

It’s a fantastic night for Canada

Whoops, just checked AnyoneButHarper – the strategic voting website. Why go on? Anyone. April Reign – a top 25 Canadian blog, I believe – says it’s cool because Harper signed a document at the start of the Martin minority reminding the GG to consider the opposition parties in the event of a loss of confidence. Also that Harper’s ideology is the

antithesis of democracy

Yes it’s clear that ideology is more important than country – but maybe not for Harper. See Seeing Red In The Southwest, regarding Duceppe:

I dispute him on the separatism issue

That was a standout post – as an aside, a Progressive blogger blandly disputes with Duceppe’s separatism. That was literally a standout post. This is more typical: (seen in two of the Progressive blogs – it’s saved as “amigos” at both)

amigos

 

I clicked through all 388 blogs listed at progressivebloggers.ca. Half or so were inactive. A few were American. Of the rest…

There was one serious argument on the western alienation and obvious power grab angles. A post called Coalition Bad Very Baaaaaaaaad.

The Grumpy Voter posts a Don Martin column pointing out that Harper backed down… unlike the coalition. He’s concerned about what this does for economic stability and the ‘voters won’t like this’ angle.

A nonpartisan on the list calls it a powergrab.

And an unknown.

And a real progressive.

A binational blogger (US/Canada) puts out a reasonable overview although it describes the situation to be as dysfunctional as Italy.

And the grand prize. I spent three or four or five hours – I don’t know –  checking almost all the active blogs back to Nov 25th looking for progressive bloggers for or against the coalition who asked this question about working with the Bloc.

One progressive blogger asked the question of what this means for Canada. His first comment was Scott Tribe calling him worse than the Conservatives. He held his ground.

One, guys. One.

Look. It sounds like the coalition would be popular in Quebec. It could be good for national unity, depending on how the west takes it. I would even argue that a BQ that supports a government in this way could be seriously weakened – Quebeckers might think why vote for a party that will support a Canadian government we like when they cannot be part of that government?

Or, it could legitimize voting Bloc for a generation.

Only one of say 150 active progressive blogs even thought about it seriously. Let’s end on a positive note. Here’s what he had to say:

Beyond the markets, should we as Liberals be going down this road? We are (or were) the party of federalism and moderate government. We now look to work with separatists to overthrow the elected government. Mr. Harper’s seeming inability to seek actual compromise is distressing and irresponsible but I do not believe the Canadian people will side with us in this fight. Even if you believe that the government must be thrown out, is it worht working with these people? What do Gilles Duceppe and Jack Layton want for Canada? Do we want to be working with a man who doesn’t believe our country, as it currently is constituted, should exist?…

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3 Responses to “Impassive”

  1. Abandoned Stuff by Saskboy :: Because the Alternatives Cost Another $300,000,000 or Blood! Says:

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  2. cenobyte Says:

    Thanks for the link, General.

    I’m not sure I believe Gilles Duceppe is worse than Harper, or Harper is worse than Gilles Duceppe. I know that Harper, if he’s not acting like a fascist, is certainly acting like a totalitarian and uncompromising twat.

    The coalition is primarily between the Liberals and the NDP, from my understanding, and the Bloc supports the Coalition, but won’t necessarily be ‘part of it’. I dunno. From what I hear on CPAC, when I hear the Bloc MPs talk, they sound a hell of a lot more reasonable than the Conservative MPs.

    Either way, I really don’t like the idea of a provincial party having federal party standing.

    Keep blogging!

  3. da wolfe Says:

    Thanks. heh, twat works for me sometimes. Much as I like the guy.

    The one thing that has really been misinterpreted was the public funding issue. I’m pretty confident that it wasn’t motivated by partisanship. It’s something conservatives… and Andrew Potter who now officially defies categorization… tend to think shouldn’t be done in the first place. That goes double in hard times. It’s absolutely what your prairie populist type of person thinks of, that the fat cats representing us should make an example and quit taking our money for their politics. It’s always a note of chagrin to have totalitarian fascist tendencies imputed for acting on the impulses of Joe Canadian.

    Partisanship only came in when Harper didn’t say “not now, because it’s too bitter for the opposition”. And an innocent naivete in thinking that an opposition that had consistently not voted against him on matters of principle would do the same on a matter of self interest.

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